I have so been saying this since Fedora was announced…

Seen on a Debian mailling list, copied from a RedHat list.

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         <rh_pr> We are announcing Red Hat Project! A community-based
                 distribution!
     <oss_crowd> rh_pr: Neat.
        <rh_dev> rh_pr: Uh... I'm not ready.
               * rh_pr is away: promoting rhel
     <oss_crowd> rh_dev: what do we do?
        <rh_dev> oss_crowd: I'm not sure.
      <rh_legal> rh_dev: don't do anything until I say it's ok.
     <oss_crowd> rh_dev: what can we do to help with Red Hat Project?
        <rh_dev> oss_crowd: uh... file bugs and help test things.
     <oss_crowd> rh_dev: didn't we always do that?
      <rh_sales> hey, all, if you really want a stable system, don't use
                 fedora project. It will eat your brane. Buy RHEL instead.
        <rh_dev> rh_sales: stfu
             --- rh_pr removes voice from rh_sales
     <fedora_us> hey, all, check out our neat community-driven system for
                 red hat development
     <oss_crowd> fedora_us: ooooh!
         <rh_pr> fedora_us: I like your name
             --- fedora_rh joined the channel
      <rh_legal> much better
         <rh_pr> We are announcing Fedora Project! A community-driven
                 distribution!
     <oss_crowd> rh_pr: Neat!
               * fedora_rh waves
     <fedora_us> I'm not dead yet.
     <fedora_rh> fedora_us: don't confuse things.
     <fedora_us> fedora_rh: does this mean we're merging?
     <fedora_rh> fedora_us: maybe
      <rh_legal> fedora_rh: don't do anything until I say it's ok.
             --- fedora_us joined #limbo
     <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: so, what can we do to help?
     <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: uh... file bugs and help test things.
     <oss_crowd> sigh... didn't we always do that?
     <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: I know, let's all go in the circle and say our
                 names.
               * oss_crowd goes in the circle and says their names. This
                 lasts several months.
     <fedora_rh> So, there will be the following features in the next
                 release of Fedora Core.
     <oss_crowd> Uh... Hold on. Who gets to decide?
      <rh_sales> We do. That stuff will be neato for RHEL-4.
     <oss_crowd> MMkay, then. When do _we_ get to suggest things?
     <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: feel free to talk among yourselves.
               * oss_crowd talks among themselves about new features.
     <fedora_rh> btw, feature X will be disabled in the release.
               * oss_crowd glares at fedora_rh
     <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: nice of you to tell us while we were sitting
                 here talking.
        <rh_dev> oss_crowd: sorry, it's just not happening.
     <oss_crowd> rh_dev: when do we get to decide what's happening?
        <rh_dev> oss_crowd: Dunno, I'll ask rh_legal
      <rh_legal> rh_dev: ugh, /msg me
      <rh_sales> rh_dev: let's not do anything rash here.
               * fedora_us gets tired of sitting in #limbo
     <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: I want to see more of the "community" part of
                 the whole "community-based" thing
     <oss_crowd> rh_dev: how about at least a publicly accessible CVS/SVN
                 tree?
        <rh_dev> oss_crowd: Yeah, that would be cool.
     <oss_crowd> rh_dev: finally, some movement. When is that going to be
                 up?
               * rh_dev is away: talking to rh_legal
               * oss_crowd tries to occupy themselves and do things like
                 fedoranews and fedorapeople.
     <oss_crowd> Uh... ping?
     <fedora_uh> oss_crowd: what's up?
     <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: We're feeling kinda useless. What exactly is our
                 role, again?
     <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: well, it would be really helpful if you could
                 test some things and file the bugs.
     <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: ugh. We ALWAYS did that.
               * oss_crowd begins to wonder what exactly is the purpose of
                 fedora_rh
     <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: it's the open-development, proving-grounds for
                 new technology component of Red Hat, as opposed to RHEL.
      <rh_sales> Told ya it'll eat your brane.
             --- rh_pr kicks rh_sales from the channel (you're a dolt)
     <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: so, let me get this straight. Effectively, you
                 want us to download the packages you release, test things,
                 file bugs, and submit patches.
     <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: Sure, why not?
     <oss_crowd> ...but when it comes to things like features, direction of
                 the project, and which software to include in the
                 distribution, it's the decision of Red Hat?
               * fedora_rh is away: I AM RH
     <fedora_us> I'm still not dead.
     <oss_crowd> fedora_rh: How is that different from how things were
                 before the whole "publicly-supported distribution" thing?
     <oss_crowd> rh_dev: where is that long-promised public CVS/SVN repo?
        <rh_dev> dunno, talk to fedora_rh
     <fedora_rh> oss_crowd: look, such things don't happen in a week, ok?
     <oss_crowd> IT'S BEEN A YEAR!
             --- rh_sales joined the channel
      <rh_sales> EAT YOUR BRAAAAAANE.
     <oss_crowd> /mode +b rh_sales
             --- You're not ops in here.
     <oss_crowd> figures
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